Things need to be covered. the attacks that i mentioned earlier, for example, the one in quebec city, for example, when it firsthand and it was originally thought that perhaps the shooter had been a muslim who had started shooting in the mosque -- >> it is almost like a live action experiment. because we are at end of our hour, i'm going to pause here. we talked about some of the problems. i think you both also offered some solution ideas so i appreciate you both doing that. thank you. >> thank you very much for having me. we are just getting started here on "the point." in our next hour, th...