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Their own interest in mind. having worked for politicians, i can tell you when you sign up to work for a topolitician, you ar putting their interest ahead of yours or you have to quit. >> you also have a duty to be responsible and not say outlandish things and make jokes as well. >> oh, yes. >> and if you screw up, you need to apologize. i know you agree someone needs to apologize, i know how you feel about that part of it. simone, did you say the white house staffers are the ones who can't trust the president and not the other way around? >> yeah, look, i think donald trump has created a cult...

Pitting folks against one another. where he can say one thing in a meeting, then goes on twitter and says something else. so while i myself have no toll toleration for leaks i have run and been a part of press shops. people leak, and i will tell you that happens because folks do not feel as though the management and the folks around them, that they can come to them and effectively resolve x, y or z issue. i think the true answer to this is the white house has to get its own ship together. until that happens, until they get their own house in order, people are going to continue to leak. look, y...