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Lobbyists were using that platform to their influence effort. it's a perfect place to do it because there's no place bettertor target a building block with extreme amounts of details in a way you can advance your cause. it's so surprise that the head of the trump campaign for 2020 is the digital director brad parse kale. this is where it's all moved is in the social media advertising. there's nothing better. >> clint watts, i appreciate your perspective on the show. it's nice to have somebody who's been in the hot seat talking with us a little bit today. >> glad i'm not there today. >> i bet. ...

The bottom line is we all serve at the pleasure of the president. if he's not pleased you'll know it. t at this time he has confident in david shell kin. >> the old, at this point and time somebody's job is safe. let's see if that remains at 2:00 eastern later on today when the deputy press secretary will brief reporters in the white house. the da secretary david shulkin can be the next to go through that resolving door. we know the washington attorneys jodey general notify and victoria announced they will not be joining that team at all because of conflicts of interest. joining us is katherin...

Kind of attention unless that's something you want to have play out to the point where someone like shulkin goes, why am i here. >> this is the thing from the beginning he love to have competition for dominance. i think there's a reason that donald trump ended up more in the business of putting his name on other biddings rather than trying to get things built himself. he thinks this is the natural order of thing and it's part of the the thing of why he has been chafing being kelly. kelly is able to control the flow of information to the president, the president could like a more free willing s...

A fair process that in the end comes up with economic recommendations for the president to take on crucial things like the economy. and instead when president trump nominated him, he said he was excited about him because he was so great on television and he would sell his agenda. that is sarah huckabee-sanders job to sell. that is not the economic adviser to the president and instead what trump said is donald trump is going to do that. and that is an absolute nightmare for both economic policy and for the country. because you have trump taking the desperate positions one day and he's protrade ...

We see that happening with larry kudlow. i'm fascinated, brian, in terms of this game of musical chairs. here is the list of resolving door, it goes from david shulkin, jeff sessions, h.r. mcmaster. who fills in for him? betsy devos? john kelly, ryan zinke, ben carson -- says sarah sanders, but i think we can take that off the list. in any event, are people interchangeable in that way? >> first of all, we have to understand what the white house is right now. it's a dysfunctional day care center. there's no other way to look at it. at the bottom you've got people who are barely professional who...