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Getting the cash up front and giving away the house. they're losing general election votes by the way they're campaigning. michigan 18 points down to the president. >> absolutely. because when he first stepped into the state it became a conversation about the auto bailout and he immediately was on the defensive. remember, one of the romney arguments was he was the only guy running that could expand the map. because he was going to put michigan in play which hasn't been in play since arguably since bush '88 and you're down 18? i mean -- >> that's what mccain lost by. >> so okay. maybe he can cu...

Arguments was he was the only guy running that could expand the map. because he was going to put michigan in play which hasn't been in play since arguably since bush '88 and you're down 18? i mean -- >> that's what mccain lost by. >> so okay. maybe he can cut it to single digits, but if you are not expanding the map then that's resources saved. look -- >> is that the pattern that we've seen in this sort of scorched earth policy of negative, negative, negative? as they go through the states, is the republican party hurting itself in the way it's -- >> i think the conversation that's been had, m...