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Leadership. for him to try to explain it away by saying i'm not sure if it's a systemic problem, that's nonsense. we know it's a systemic problem. there are gao report after report that gives detail to these problems. >> republicans obviously but veterans groups perhaps more importantly seemed underwhemed today. >> for one thing the white house lied. jay carney looked at the american people in the eye and said the american legion supports what we've done so far. we're okay with saying a guy who is retiring has been fired. the american legion knows better and we know better than that. like stev...

Gives the kind of response steve was talking about. the political response to this thing has been both dishonest and way too week. i think this may be one of the lowest points of his presidency. >> charles? >> it's because you can't run away from this. on the other scandals, the democrats would sit it out or pretend that there wasn't a scandal, call it a witch hunt, call it partisan, and the press would join with the democrats and that would be it. here the democrats have been screaming very loudly, loud complaints from many democrats, some on the floor of the congress, and that being the case...

Americans and a blemish on both secretary clinton and president obama's record. secondly, that republicans have to be careful of not overreaching by getting bogged down in conspiracy theories that don't bear out or retread information that we have already gone over. third, democrats have to worry about looking like they are covering something up or actually covering something up, which is why i just didn't understand why there was even talk that they might not take part in this committee. they had to do this and they have got to do this right or they are going to look like they're hiding somet...