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Tax cuts. it's completely opposed to strengthening medicare. so if you're going to have this discussion, i'd love to have it in full view because if you want to debate with me, define your terms. what do you mean by restructuring medicare? making it a voucher? or can we work together to strengthen it to prolong its life, to increase its benefits as we did in the affordable care act. >> what percentage would you put ongoing over the cliff? >> i believe we can get an agreement. i really do. and i think that if our republican friends, they might as well let us know, the answer is no. let's all go...

Quantity of procedures. so it's about quality, not just quantity. >> how convinced are you that they really want to get the entitlements and get them going in a different direction? boehner comes out and he offers basically the ryan plan. this is really what they want, isn't it? >> there's a range as to what they want. there's some who have said publically they think medicare should wither on the vine. the ryan budget is exactly a furtherance of a withering on the vine. it makes it a voucher. it takes money from the medicare system and uses it for high-end tax cuts. it's completely opposed to ...

Avoiding this fiscal disaster that awaits us, if the cost of medicare, especially, continues to rise the way it's projected to rise in the coming decades. it's way to bring that under control. the two most controversial elements of it that we know about are that 1, restructuring medicare into what they call a premium support system, democrats call a voucher system and the other thing is turning medicaid into a bloc grant, in which the federal government gives the money to the states and they administer medicaid and cut it to the levels that it is today. both of those things, you are going to h...

After marrying, they had 3 children -- liza, charley and sam. he has one common belief he tried to instill. >> gen and i tell liza, charley and sam that america is a place where if you work hard and play by the rules, you can get ahead. >> greta: congressman shot up through the ranks. and when it came to the economy, everyone had his eyes on the congressman from wisconsin. his master plan, in 2010, ryan unveiled his road map to economic recovery, including a revamp of the tax code n. 2011, he took over as chairman of the house budget committee and proposed huge controversial changes in medicar...

His fellow republicans to gog along with his spending and his budget plans. they were not on board to begin with. and ryan rather brilliantly worked outside forces. he worked with conservative think tanks, like american enterprise institute, heritage foundation and with conservative media, like the standard and the wall street journal to build momentum for his ideas and that ended up putting pressure on some of his colleagues, his republican colleagues who didn't want to go along. he has worked it brilliantly from the outside, not as much from the inside. >> greta: now the budget, the great di...