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Legacy obviously not a priority, but for those around him and people that you describe as "yes, rudys" what does it feel like to watch your old boss and maybe friend and mentor. i know about this photo you carried, take this turn? >> well, it is affecting a lot of people's resz m 's resumes, you that. to tell people today you worked for rudy giuliani can invite scorn, anybody under a certain age and didn't know what a terrific job he did as mayor cleaning up new york city, making it safer. nobody wants to hear about that rudy. they just want to know what's wrong with the man they see lying for...

Up to reporters, hey, guys, what you got for me? we fire away and he's so nice and takes every question. now everybody is paying attention and their strategy is changing. >> do you think because there's more media here so everybody's getting more media or more attention to jon huntsman specifically? >> i think jon huntsman is under a lot of pressure. he didn't campaign in iowa. he has no track record up to this point in terms of elections. we're seeing everybody say, all right, is this guy in? are we on a death watch? and so i think that's the thing. four days to go. this guy's only campaign t...

You got for me? we fire away and he's so nice and takes every question. now everybody is paying attention and their strategy is changing. >> do you think because there's more media here so everybody's getting more media or more attention to jon huntsman specifically? >> i think jon huntsman is under a lot of pressure. he didn't campaign in iowa. he has no track record up to this point in terms of elections. we're seeing everybody say, all right, is this guy in? are we on a death watch? and so i think that's the thing. four days to go. this guy's only campaign tihere. he's in the single digits....