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Rudy's great. but rudy has just started and he wasn't totally familiar with every -- you know, with everything. >> mr. president -- [inaudible] >> we're not changing any stories. >> here's what he said on air force one in april. >> do you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> [inaudible]. >> president trump said that he paid cohen a retainer fee, and the reimbursement was made through that. blake? >> so what did the president have to say in ohio today? did he make any news? >> he made a little bit of news. he hinted at potentially some future actions in regards to immigration a...

[inaudible question] >> the president says he paid michael cohen a retainer fee and the reimbursement came that care about the president and his legal team have denied the affair ever took fifth place. when the president left to go to cleveland and when he came back reporters tried to ask him about this. the payment as well as stormy daniels. no response. >> we try all the time i've been there often. thank you. >> we are now learning investigators on the robert mueller team have interviewed this man. a california real estate investor and one of the presidents closest friends and confidence. ga...

Rudy's great. but rudy had just started, and he wasn't totally familiar with every -- you know, with everything. >> mr. president -- >> we're not changing any story. >> here's what president trump said on air force one in april. >> do you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> president trump said that he paid cohen a retainer fee in the reimbursement came from that. julie? julie: ellison barber, thank you very much. investigators on special counsel robert mueller's team reportedly questioning this man on your screen, california real estate investor in their russian meddling p...

There are a couple of things he said, one of which was people were worried about this from the beginning, right? when is it the beginning start? is the beginning in 2006 when the affair happened? is it the beginning in 2016 on the eve of the election? is the beginning a couple of months ago when this hit the press? it's unclear. of course rudy giuliani's other statements basically saying if this had come out, can you imagine what the impact would have been on the campaign and michael cohen took care of it. it's a good thing he did essentially is what rudy giuliani is saying. we'll get more que...

E-mail. maybe envelopes, they expense that to the client. now, we're to believe that having the expense $130,000, he didn't expense. he paid it out of his own money. he swallowed it. this is not how lawyers operate. yeah, i pick up all expenses including payoff relationships. i would never charge you. of course, he charged trump the money. of course, trump had to agree to pay it. this is ridiculous. >> that's right, chris. i think you have to look at giuliani's written statement today when he said my references to timing are in no way indicative of the president's knowledge. he's trying to mai...