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White house chief of staff incoming secretary john kelly in an interview with our own pete williams in aspen. he did not know the president who anyone who knew the president before taking his job at secretary of homeland security last fall. now he takes over to lead the staff in the west wing on monday. we are so happy and fortunate to have with us three men who know the general. retired four-star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey. ground commander in desert storm another decorated combat veteran, colonel jack jacobs. u.s. army retired process. one of only 71 living recipients of medal of hono...

Have with us three men who know the general. retired four-star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey. fwround commander in desert storm another decorated combat veteran. jack ojibways are jacobs. u.s. army retired process. one of only 71 living resip ynts of medal of honor. the former chief of staff of at cia and pentagon jeremy bash. you and general kelly were both in the four-star club a very small membership hour well did you come to know him and tell us who is this man. >> i've seen him over the years particularly as a south crom seminars dealing with latin american smus. this is one of the fi...