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a plan b or c. senate, the other from house >> go ahead, please, carl. republicans. but there's a big problem. >> i just think that they're -- neither of those plans may be i think that at this point they able to get through congress and probably have to go through some of these initial votes. the clock is ticking. and that's what i was referring to earlier, that the back cnn congressional correspondent channel communication that kate boulwan joins us now. continues and, you know, where senator mcconnell comes down i think will be important. let's start in the house where whether he ...

no deal on the debt ceiling, but it is a new day. our sources say president obama is trying to koex members of his own party, while cutting as much as $3 trillion in spending. that is going to mean changes in health and retirement programs, also puts off tax reform, something a lot of people felt is very important, until later. the details are very fluid. no agreements yet. congressional democrats are very nervous. the president trying to figure out a way to work it out. he's holding a two-hour meeting at the white house. he did that last night. writing about compromise in this morni...

To be afraid to do what he this need to do. i don't think, neil, they sufficiently recognize what sent this big freshman class to washington. i think there's a mandate to be absolutely outside the box, a mandate to be bold. we have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get our spending house in order, but, again, the longer you've been in washington, no matter what party you are. you tend to not understand where most folks are. >> well, very wisely put. congressman, good seeing you as always. >> always, neil. stay bold, buddy. >> neil: all right. here's what the vice president and largely democr...

Debt, repair the safety net, make america's tax system fair and competitive and insure our health and retirement programs have a strong and lasting future. these issues are too important to leave to the past. if president obama won't lead, we will. >> like the republicans were on the offensive in '95 over medicare reductions, this is the back and forth. i don't think the party that is reducing the rate of increase on these entitlement programs, which ever party that is, i still don't think they figured out how to get around being attacked successfully politically. >> look, it's tough political...

♪ the president has been very clear from the state of the union address on that we need to come together in this country. people in both parties in congress torsion reduce the deficit. we've got to decide and it's going to be a tough fight how do we reduce the deficit get on a more sustainable trajectory but in a way that didn't compromise jobs. >> there's four things, get the economy growing, get people back to work. save our social security, our medicare, our retirement programs for this generation, future generations. we want to give our children a debt-free nation. that's what this pla...