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That is done by home kunls, in other words in the united states it's done by the faa. in ukraine, done by ukraine. and by airlines and their home countries. so malaysia airlines and ma lay shea. they could have decided not to fly over ukrainian air space. >> there are airlines that continue to fly. british airways. why is that, captain bunn? >> you are talking about israel. let's make it clear. talking about israel. i was talking about what happened over ukraine. but into israel this morning, that's correct. you have foreign care yerls flying into tel aviv. >> captain bunn, do you question the...

And the pilot then has to say, okay, as far as i can tell, that's true. any dispatcher, any pilot can pull the plug saying, look, i read the news on monday and a plane was shot down by a missile to go to 70,000 feet. you want me to fly over there? i don't know who's manning the missiles. they should have shut that done. >> tom costello, for people about to travel and want the know that their plane isn't going over a war stone air space, is there any way to determine the route? >> very difficult. you can get on websites like fly to where, for example, multiple websites out there to show you whe...

History. already burned out an area four times bigger than the city of seattle, knocked out utilities, water, power for several towns and left nearly 200 homes destroyed. now the breaking news, the faa taking the dramatic step of banning all flights to and from tel aviv over safety concerns. joining me is nbc's tom costello, the expert on all things aviation and joining us captain tom bunn. tom costello, this all started with delta plane, flight number 468 enroute to tel aviv diverted to paris over safety concerns. what happened there? >> what happened is a rocket landed within a mile or so ...

Up. and the workers, the one worker came in and said who are you, what are you doing on this plane? i said, dude, i was a passenger on the plane. i fell asleep. i woke up. >> gave you a travel voucher. is that enough? will you be traveling with them ever again? >> i'll travel back on my return flight to louisiana. >> how about that? here's a response from the airline. quote, expressjet is investigating to determine how this occurred. we sin sleerly apologize for the inconvenience that this caused for the passenger, from expressjet. take a look at this monument. in 2009, oklahoma gave a green l...

Supreme court. i guess, pete, you would think it's conventional assumption that they should be able to do this, though. >> reporter: federal law does provide them immunity unless they act in bad faith and that's the question here. this involves a pilot for air wisconsin airways flying commuter planes for united express. he had to take new tests to be upgraded to a different plane and he failed a simulator test three times. he claims he was set up by people in the airline who wanted him out. but in any event when he failed it the last time, he got mad, he yelled at the instructor, threw his hea...