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General. anti -- authoritarianism. it's basically anarchy. and that's what they are rooting for so they can revenge a system that works better for them. >> it is not easily discounted because of the way it's spreading around the world. you can't now just sort of shove it into a corner and ignore it. and i appreciate the reporting you do this. ben collins is a senior reporter for nbc news. we always appreciate your time my friend. coming up next, the growing spin and republican party about january six and what voters are gonna make about it come election day. we will be right back. wahoooo! (vo...

They're a little more violent than the ones that have been here. you see that in canada with the trucker convoy right now. this is a global movement of, you know, i think they wanted to be called populism. but it's a global movement of anti elitism, anti authoritarianism -- sorry, anti authority in general. anti -- authoritarianism. it's basically anarchy. and that's what they are rooting for so they can revenge a system that works better for them. >> it is not easily discounted because of the way it's spreading around the world. you can't now just sort of shove it into a corner and ignore it....