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This. he basically just wanted to oh, gosh, this is the first question, let's -- he wanted to get rid of it and move on to something else. should he be held to the same standard as someone who's been a career politician, who's done a million town halls and maybe more experienced with how they handle people? >> what do you think donald trump would say if he decided to build a 150 story office building in manhattan. >> good luck and go to it. >> you idiot, you don't know what you're talking about. that's my answer. >> because he's running for president, you're saying he should be skilled at this...

Spent 20 years -- listen to me here carefully. i'm a member of that same united church of christ denomination. the members run the church. they have the ability to fire the minister. barack obama sat in that pey and listened to anti-semitic sermons for years and never said anything. >> he responded to it a number of times, a number of times in 2008 -- >> he didn't fire the guy. he could have fired the guy. he didn't do it. he didn't act. >> okay -- >> same standard. >> he has addressed the issue, he explained why he was there and that he did not see -- or hear any of those statements. he's add...

>> i might disagree just mildly with stephanie here, i thought the march 2008 speech around race, around then senator obama's pastor. >> reverend wright. >> i thought that speech was a very emotional and extraordinary speech in the middle of a presidential campaign and at a very pivotal time where he needed to go at and explain to the american people this basic piece of his life that had to do with his faith, it had to do with his church, but also a broader context of how he approached these issues. i was really struck listening to his speech on friday at how much -- how far again he has come ...

>> reverend wright. i thought that speech was a very emotional and extraordinary speech in the middle of a presidential campaign and at a very pivotal time where he really needed to go out and explain to the american people this basic piece of his life that had to do with his faith, that had to do with his church, that had to do with his pastor, but also a broader context of how he approached these issues. and i was really struck, jake, listening to his speech on friday at how much -- how far, again, he has come and this country has come in terms of discussing these issues. since march 2008. i...

He didn't talk candidly about race really all that often, there were a couple moments here and there, but generally speaking, it seemed as though his staff didn't want him talking about it. >> well, it was a very big concern. early in his career, he did talk about race, he was forced to talk about race with jeremiah wright and he did well. once he got into the white house, he got his so hard that he felt himself in a beer summit with a beat cop just trying to escape with the black lash. and he was basically silent for years. blacks beating him up saying he wasn't saying enough, whites beating ...