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We'll give you death. the other one is that it's a very mickey mouse reverse psychology ploy. but the prosecutors real quick, jon, are going to have a very good argument that this was a cruel, heinous and depraved killing, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. jon: well, juan martinez, the prosecutor, asked the jury are you going to let her scam you in his closing arguments. we'll see what happens when they consider the death penalty. doug burns, carrie hackett, thank you both. >> my pleasure, jon. >> thank you. jenna: well, in another legal case, nearly four years after michael jackson...

I'm not making up, all of them abroad. 800,000. i found it fascinating at their convention when governor romney said the first thing i will do when i'm elected president, i will take a jobs tour. it's going to have to be a foreign trip. >> joining me now ezra klein and eugene robinson. it was a strong week for the conspiracy theorists about the unemployment numbers. first the theory was that the president would use hurricane sandy and its effects possibly on washington, d.c. as an excuse for delaying the jobs report until after the election. and then of course as of yesterday when they knew it...

Of .1%. >> it's a reverse psychology ploy that the obama folks are trying but it won't work. none of what the conspiracy theoryists thought would happen in fact happened and there was an uptick in the percentage and a decent number of new jobs. and so it really allows both campaigns to continue with their main economic narratives. the obama narrative that things are getting better, let's stay the course and the romney narrative that things aren't getting better fast enough. >> mitt romney brought up the booming debt ceiling situation. there's going to have to be another increase relatively soo...