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Emotionally say after losing a son, she thinks the vice president's going to need five years to ajust to dealing with anything, let alone holding the highest office in the land. that's different than what you'd see in the polling where there does seem to be support for the vice president. in many ways he's supportive. his advisors say if he gets in the race, a lot of the doubts about him that you heard in those focus groups would be quickly erased. >> let me play what the focus group had to say about bernie sanders. >> describe a sanders presidency. >> more people oriented. the revolution stuf...

The liberal according to the right wingers, it's amazing to me. >> it's a movement of like-minded souls, all of whom love obama. and that andrew sullivan thing is a great example. every other mainstream reporter on the gay marriage, all this evolution stuff -- they didn't even mention -- >> andrew sullivan is a conservative. >> he's not a conservative if he loves obama. >> how dare he love obama. >> conservatives can say anybody who loves obama that much is not a conservative the way conservative is commonly understood. >> conservatives can't like our president. >> they can love him as a perso...

Joan, let's get real. >> oh, boy. you hate it when i say that. >> why the face? >> why the face? >> so joan, do you fear -- i'm serious -- do you fear -- by the way, she's staying. so you can play the music all you want. okay. >> she stays till 7:30. we've got here. >> let's not let her go. do you fear the tea party personally? >> i don't personally fear the tea party. i don't like the rhetoric. i think that there is an extremism and a violent -- the revolution stuff. we weren't talking revolution under bush. >> i just wonder if that's media created, though. >> i don't think so. >> the edgy pa...