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And effectively everybody in the chain was saying, no, somebody else was in charge of this part of it. that's why it's hard to pin it on one person. >> and do they try to pin it on a person no one heard of? or do they say the buck stops at the kathleen sebelius level? that's going to be the big question. it gets worse. it's not like let's just go untangle the web. which in and of itself would be very difficult to do. they're saying you might have to start from scratch. rewrite millions of lines of computer code to fix this. should they just possibly scrap the whole thing and start again as som...

Charge, including the president, who, as his own officials now say, was unaware that this tangled mess was building down here. so the problem in finding who to blame is to say somebody had to be responsible. and effectively everybody in the chain was saying, no, somebody else was in charge of this part of it. that's why it's hard to pin it on one person. >> and do they try to pin it on a person no one heard of? or do they say the buck stops at the kathleen sebelius level? it gets worse. it's not like let's just go untal tangle the web. they're saying you might have to start from scratch. rewri...