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To that or will it be a tug-of-war to the very end? >> i think it will be a tug-of-war to the very end, but the fact we're running an hour late today is a sign that the president is talking. they're having lots of conversations. macron is not a miracle worker but at least he has a seat at the table with this president. that matters for something, maybe not everything, but something. >> it will be fascinating to see if the rhetoric changes. this morning the president said the deal was bad, used other tough words. macron is saying the world has to stay together, we have to stay together, meaning...

That might include terrorists what do you think of their pickle? >> it is a pickle. one that i think until the financial dynamic changes, until the rhetoric changes, apple, google and others are looking to make money. so they will tell us they're doing their best or enhancing their measures to ferret this out, to shut it out or hand it over to law enforcement. but until we see a big attack domestically and lots more killed and injured, until the public narrative is critical of these i.t. companies for how they're doing business, they will continue to do business the same way. >> neil: i want t...

I hope they get to him and make him understand that denigrating the intelligence committee just denigrates u.s. interests. it makes us more vulnerable. i hope the rhetoric changes. >> he tweeted yesterday morning comparing the spy agencies to nazis. what is the impact of that? >> it's really, really unfortunate. mr. putin, among others, but primarily, is spending all his time since i came back as president trying to convince the rest of the world that america is weak, it's not in control of its own assets. basically saying to other parts of the world, look, you can't count on america. they're ...

People around him -- i know he has people around him who know a lot about the community. some i don't agree with, like general flynn. otherwise like mattis i do. but i hope they get to him and make him understand that denigrating the intelligence community just den grates u.s. interests. it makes us -- makes us more vulnerable. and so i hope the rhetoric changes. >> he tweeted yesterday morning comparing the spy agencies to nazis. what is the impact of that? >> it's really, really unfortunate. look, mr. putin, among others, but primarily, is spending all his time since he came back as presiden...

Whether in terms of our foreign intelligence decisions, foreign policy decisions. and i hope that -- that he has people around him. i know he has people around him who know a lot about the community. some i don't agree with, like general flynn. others like mattis i do. but i hope they get to him and make him understand that denigrating the intelligence community just denigrates u.s. interests. it makes us more vulnerable. so, i hope the rhetoric changes. >> reporter: he tweeted yesterday morning comparing the spy agencies to nazis. what is the impact of that? >> it's really, really unfortunate...