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Why do we have rib rals talking about? my liberal friends complaining about having to walk faster through a park with their children because they're concerned that at how many have a grants or harmless people are in these parks? i know you are hearing it a lot. we are all hearing it. >> two things, chipping points in the early '90s the conditions in the subway got bad, it chipped the people, i focused on it. i was chief of police at the time. out of that came the dramatic turn around in the subway. focused in '94. mayor guiliani and focused on crime in the city. turned that around. right now y...

That was surprise to go me. >> well, what i and i should say i've known richard cohen for many years. i don't consider him a racist, but i'm not defending the wording here is that he wasn't just describing the tea party. he pivoted from that to talk about people with conventional views as if many, many people in america are appalled to the point of gagging by interracial marriage. at the same time, we have a lot of people saying the guy should be fired. what do you think? >> i don't understand it i guess is the bottom line. i don't know what his point was. i don't know what it had to do with t...

>> well, what i found odd, and i should say i've known richard cohen for many years. i don't consider him a racist, but i'm not defending the wording here is that he wasn't just describing the tea party. he pivoted from that to talk about people with conventional views as if many, many people in america are appalled to the point of gagging by interracial marriage. at the same time, we have a lot of people saying the guy should be fired. what do you think? >> i don't understand it i guess is the bottom line. i don't know what his point was. i don't know what it had to do with the column. i don'...