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Groups is on the rise, up 69% since 2000. since 2008, militia anti-government patriotic groups have skyrocketed. a staggering 755% increase. 2008, that just happens to be the same year the first african-american was elected president. joining me now is richard corn, president of the southern poverty law center, an organization that's been at the forefront of exposing injustice in america. richard, thank you for coming on the show with this important report. it's staggering. what is motivating this rise in these hate groups? >> you know, reverend sharpton, you talked about it as a coincidence, ...

Former new york times columnist, and distinguished senior fellow at demoss. and richard corn, president and ceo of the southern poverty law center. his organization has tracked over 700 reported hate incidents since the election. thank you, both, for being here. >> great to see you. >> thank you, rev. >> what are conservatives really saying when they attack, quote, identity politics? i've been reading your column for years and the times are writing since then, and, i mean, identity politics, the thing that really has bothered me about this is they act like minorities, african-americans, latino...