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Different interpretation of that and one thing about the administration's policies, they're coming under charge next year and while we talk about investigation over russia issues or conflicts of interest. one of the constant areas of the potential investigations. it's the issue of immigration. speaking with the presumed homeland security chairman. he has a litany of administration policies on immigration and investigates. so the asylum policy, the family separation policy, the travel ban and once the house gained subsequent powers and something they're going to be asking a lot of questions. >>...

Government. you met with the president on saturday. did you think there was any situation where the president will give in to that demand to give up on the wall? >> i can tell you, he voted for what we call a bill that would actually and his position changed since 2006 but to suggest a secure border is not something that most americans would agree with. i can tell you the president is if i recall in h firm in his resolve with the border and encouraging me and others to enter in discussions with democrats but a lot of progress that has been made today. >> he's encouraging you to try

Endorsement means a lot? >> i think he would stay out. >> biden gets in. >> unless joe biden gets in. but i also think brown is a very interesting candidate because the battleground will be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles. can a democrat play in the midwest? jerry brown, i mean, trump won ohio. you've got to be able to beat trump in michigan, ohio, wisconsin, pennsylvania. you have to be able to be competitive there, but then you also have to take the message to florida and other places. we know what the battleground will be. which democrat fits in the best? >> you have to be...

Overwhelmingly, those prospective candidates are not. some are, some are men and some are people of color but a lot of candidates and leading the very early polls, even too early to call polls or more like gut check or something like that or white men, so i think there are a couple of battles inside the party. what's the right face for that candidate or background for the candidate? insider or outsider? what does outsider mean anymore? means you never held elected office or held outside. and didn't win the race but i think it's too soon to know where things are going. >> in the democratic part...

Of the house and speaker nancy pelosi will put a funding deal on the floor. it will pass in a democratic majority and then go to a republican run senate and then what happens? mitch mcconnell will ask his colleagues what they think and if he thinks they need to pass it. >> that's why i asked the question at the end. i see the scenario possibly playing out. the house passes something and mcconnell feels a lot of pressure from his guys to reopen the government. a lot of frustration with republicans. do you think that could happen that congress tries to move and overcome any presidential veto on ...