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Joining me now, former spokesman for the u.n. rick gr are inell. welcome. isis declares an islamic state. president obama seems to be caught off guard on everything in syria and iraq. what's america's mideast policy? >> if we had a president that had vision and a strategy it would be to advance liberty, to give the middle east syrians who have seen 180,000 die. have an option that there is a third path that doesn't have to be autocracy of assad or militancy of islam and radical ideology but liberty. without the green revolution and other reforms and the arab awakening we have a vacuum filled b...

Will disappear and islamism will be on the rise. >> you bring up a good point. rick, what is america's interest there? what should we do there? >> our only interest is iran. that's our priority. we have to be very focused on what iran will do. in 2005, we had really in the bush administration pushed the iranians and the syrians out of lebanon. we were focused on syria. because iraq was calm. we really had this region beginning to look like a place that we could be comfortable with. we clearly saw that when obama came in. i would say his foreign strategy is to go to war or ignore the situation....

Rebels. do you think this is a good idea? rick, you can answer after that. good idea? do we know who the syrian rebels are? >> we were calling for this at the beginning of the revolution when there was hardly any al qaeda and slowly surprise left them out of jail. he decimated the moderates and fund it is islamists. yes, i would rath arer see us finally send money. we can vet the jihad versus those there to defeat assad. >> can we vet it? >> listen, pull up the full screen. there is a picture that was from may of 2013 there is senator john mccain standing with who were supposed to be syrian re...

Joining me now, former spokesman for the u.n. rick gr are inell. welcome. isis declares an islamic state. president obama seems to be caught off guard on everything in syria and iraq. what's america's mideast policy? >> if we had a president that had vision and a strategy it would be to advance liberty, to give the middle east syrians who have seen 180,000 die. have an option that there is a third path that doesn't have to be autocracy of assad or militancy of islam and radical ideology but liberty. without the green revolution and other reforms and the arab awakening we have a vacuum filled b...

Will disappear and islamism will be on the rise. >> you bring up a good point. rick, what is america's interest there? what should we do there? >> our only interest is iran. that's our priority. we have to be very focused on what iran will do. in 2005, we had really in the bush administration pushed the iranians and the syrians out of lebanon. we were focused on syria. because iraq was calm. we really had this region beginning to look like a place that we could be comfortable with. we clearly saw that when obama came in. i would say his foreign strategy is to go to war or ignore the situation....