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>> will president trump be prepared, you know -- president putin is kgb and this and that. you know what, putin is fine. he's fine. we're all fine. we're people. will i be prepared? totally prepared. i've been preparing for this stuff my whole life. >> so the president praises putin. he reluctantly calls out russia meddling in america's election. now he's going to have a one-on-one meeting with the president without anybody around. appropriate? >> well, many of us are concerned. i certainly am. about the president's ongoing rhetoric that really demeans or ridicules our allies and praises our a...

Enough so that portions of the cave became walkable. on top of that, there were still areas that were still under water, and that's where these divers have been doing exactly what experts have been counseling for days. put the boys in full face masks, and then as they entered the submerged portions of the cave, as we understand it, what happened was one diver would go in front, carrying the air supply for that boy, pulling the boy along behind him, and the other diver would come behind. that's how they went from that many people in the cave to this many people being out, which is a big improve...

Total incompetence of the administration being unable to reunite them. this turns them off. and then the whole question of the personal behavior of donald trump, the way he talks, his demeaning characterization of women, the way he insults everyone. this turns a lot of well-educated white women, whom he needs, if he's going to be re-elected, off. >> true. but a lot of them also voted for him, and all of those characteristics were out in full force in 2016. do you think it's different now that he's president? >> i do think it's different for a couple reasons. one, the separation of families, i ...

>> have you ever seen anything even remotely close to this challenge? >> i have not personally, no. nothing that i've been involved in. i have done a few rescues where conditions have been silted out. a cave is an unforgiving environment. when you cannot see, you lose that sense. and that means braille. the goal line becomes that much more critical. so hats off to these divers, and they're probably best in the world. they do dive a lot of sumps and that's exactly what this cave is. >> and you know some of them. have you heard from them? >> i have not heard from them. i do know rick stanton, on...

In the congress, and we talk about how, you know, statements are made. sometimes they're walked back. but for the president to say that nato is as bad as nafta, in many ways is -- it's okay, because we think nafta is good as well. but when our nato allies hear something like that, you can imagine how they feel. particularly those who are right on the front lines. you have countries, as well -- we visited finland as well as sweden. they're not members of nato, but they are enhanced partners, and so we work and coordinate with them and do exercises with them. it's important for them, as well. an...