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>> well, i got tired of telling that lie about education and research. the fact is the show i was doing was nothing more than a spectacle of dominance, and, in fact, a form of bad education. that had a lot to do with it. >> jack hanna, who often talks about this. how do you respond to rick? >> real quickly, larry, can i just read -- i received a letter today from the member of the family. one sentence. can i take 12 seconds to read this, the last sentence? >> larry: yes. >> jack, i know you knew dawn and what an amazing person she was, we need to smile, light up the room, educate the world and...

And make $4, $5 million a he year. but i would have to be a professional liar to do that. i'm not willing to do that. the fact is dolphins are trained and chromed controlled by their food. they are controlled by their food, and he calls this positive reward. the dolphin calls it food deprivation. it's a word game they play at seaworld. >> larry: we haven't interviewed a dolphin, so we're not going to know that. jack, you have a long-standing relationship with seaworld and busch garden and make appearances on behalf of them. in your position you maybe shape our financial interests, although i k...

A man lost his life here, and these two guys representing seaworld are being very quiet about that. you may not have been able to get your staff to confirm what i said, but that's a serious thing. now, if alex martinez was killed by a seaworld killer whale on december 24th just a few months ago, certainly they would know about it. if they don't know about that, what else don't they know? >> larry: jack, do you know about it? >> why don't you ask them. >> larry: i'm asking them. >> yes, i heard that. i don't know the facts of it. you're correct, rick. so what do we do, rick? >> you don't know t...

They have a social group there. tilikum has a social group with other animals. for these people to say because they're emotional about it and idealistic about it, they want to believe these whales or dolphins sit around thinking about being in the ocean, i can guarantee you that's not what is taking place. >> rick, do you feel guilt over what you've done previously? >> wait a minute, larry. i'm sorry. a man lost his life here, and these two guys representing seaworld are being very he quiet about that. you may not have been able to get your staff to confirm what i said, but that's a serious th...

Rick has trained very few animals back in the 1960s. since that time mainly because he couldn't get a job doing anything else, once he left -- actually, once he was fired from his jobs and those are the facts, then he turned against the ocean aquariums. i cannot help that he trained dolphins using dominance theory. that is not the case anymore. nobody trains dolphins that way in the entire industry. it is all done with positive reinforcement and done in a very positive way, and dawn brancheau was one of those people that carried it on very beautifully. >> larry: rick, you may respond. >> well,...