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Be able to do what they've been doing, in terms of having access to the united states and europe, if this continues to go forward. >> rick, the president also made it clear that others, who have not been named, other russians who haven't been named, have been warned that they are on the list. as the sanctions proceed, they will be getting to them. >> yes. paul said it well. one of the things that is new, lawrence, is sanctioning families. russia is an oligarchies. all of these men, who are probably in their 40s, are the sons of other cronies who around putin. carrie ankles father is a deputy p...

Would've gone ahead, and that would've been the end of ukraine. it would've been swallowed. i've been thinking about the history of the republican party, and the first republican president, abraham lincoln in 1862, he said, of the stakes that we will either know belize save or meanly lose the last best hope on earth. he was talking about freedom, and democracy. so you now have a political party, that with some exceptions, some divisions, is moving over into this category of authoritarian government. before world war two, the republican isolationist. former president hoover, wasn't isolationist...

Pay them. -- within russia, indeed, yesterday's own cabinet was pretty queasy about this notion. the fact remains, putin is a sole veto player in russia, therefore, my prediction would be, you're going to see an escalation of military force. rick, when vladimir putin is looking around for an example of russia and success and these kinds of adventures, post soviet union russian success, in trying to take over a country like ukraine, what is the example that he has? >> i guess you might say, george, that in 2008, it's not a very good example. moldova is another poor example. that is why he has b...

Beginning, and russia has made clear its rejection of diplomacy, it does not make sense to go forward with that meeting, at this time. >> leading off our discussion, rick single, a former secretary of state of the bomb ministration, he is an msnbc political analyst. daniel diaz now, professor of international politics at the fletcher school of law and diplomacy. a contributor to the washington post a national list. -- with the washington post. rick, let me begin with you. i for one did not know whether the pipeline was really in play, or at what stage in the sanctions the pipeline would be in ...

Xi jinping cares more about his economy than he cares about what putin is doing in ukraine. the reason he is siding with putin is that there common interest is undermining american power, undermining the american commitment to democracy and human rights. he does not want america or anybody else talking about human rights in china. that's where he and putin have linked arms, but they will separate if it starts hurting china's economy. >> rick single, and lucian kim, thank you both for this -- for joining our discussion tonight. >> why a no-fly zone has never been achieved in a war with a major ...