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Be able to do what they've been doing, in terms of having access to the united states and europe, if this continues to go forward. >> rick, the president also made it clear that others, who have not been named, other russians who haven't been named, have been warned that they are on the list. as the sanctions proceed, they will be getting to them. >> yes. paul said it well. one of the things that is new, lawrence, is sanctioning families. russia is an oligarchies. all of these men, who are probably in their 40s, are the sons of other cronies who around putin. carrie ankles father is a deputy p...

You are seeing a unity in response, it's very being you're -- also seeing the u.s. do suffer hasn't done before it's going after the children of top officials in putin's inner circle, who are themselves, officials at a state owned bank, and social media company. you're also seeing them blocking sanctions against the state owned bank. they're trying to signal to vladimir putin, if you think we're not willing to do these things, we are, and we're going to escalate as you do. >> we have a list of five people, specifically. the so-called elites that were referred to today. there's a list of the fi...

A lot more than they're going to hurt united states the fact is, united states and russia do not treat all of that much with each other. there's not a lot of bilateral economic exchange. on the other hand, russia is somewhat more significant trading partner with europe. anytime the sanctions are brought up, europe is going to pay a much better price, a much higher price. so, there is some credit to the biden ministration it is managed to secure, relatively, strong ally cooperation, in terms of a response to what russia is doing in ukraine. >> paul, for vladimir putin, he was testing nato unity...

Middle of this whole thing that they weren't even going to get any phone calls with the trump white house moving forward ls in they coughed up those investigations that were being demanded of them. that's new this weekend from greg miller, greg joffe and paul sony at the "washington post." and then there is the "associated press." as i mentioned earlier in the show, the "associated press" had that initial just absolute bombshell scoop about rick perry going to the inauguration of the ukrainian president. while he's there on the sideline of the inauguration handing the new president a piece of ...