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Get a real job training. >> rick, could you live with that? >> actually i think steve is on to something. you know who else came up with an idea not completely dissimilar? his name is president barak obama, also came up with a training program at community colleges and do you know what happened to that? the gop in the house blew it away. >> morgan, the point is -- >> what about job retraining fort president? >> oh! all right. that's a whole nother segment that we'll deal with perhaps next week. morgan, the fact is, don't we need to consolidate that? even the president, by the way, says it's a ...

Issue that could choose to do this. what we're talking about is socializing the losses from really bad behavior, from social activities. so not just smoking. i would say drinking, too. if you don't like it, if you work for that company, work elsewhere or don't smoke or drink. >> rick, i was surprised to hear you were against this because isn't this the same rationale that obamacare uses for the insurance mandate? if you cause the general public more money, you should pay a premium for it? >> you'll be less surprised when i tell you why. by the way, steve and i must have gone to counseling this...

Because it carries -- in return, we want you to cut a deal with the i fm. we know the international monetary fund w its high tax, getting rid of subsidies when the economy is in a free fall and devaluating the economy, a huge wave of making the government totally unpopular. otherwise it's a huge waste of money. we shouldn't do it. >> rick, on the face of it, at a time when the white house is complaining that it has to give out furloughs and cut white house tours, spending $250 million on a government that's run by the muslim brotherhood, does that make sense? >> actually, i love steve theories...

To do the job instead of having the government do it itself. >> steve forbes with a plan that even rick agreed with. so maybe we're on to something here. pay 50 grand and illegals can move to the front of the line. this is a new plan to sell the rights to u.s. citizenship and it is fueling a heated debate. our "cashin' in" crew is on it. but first, right here, if you want to light up, you better pony up. a growing number of companies are making smokers pay more for health care premiums. why nonsmokers should be very worried about this, coming next [ male announcer ] at his current pace, bob wi...

>> john, do these programs work or not? if they do, maybe we should spend some money there. if we don't, we shouldn't? >> let's think about this. the very federal government that gave us the tsa, u.s. customs and the post office wants to train the next generation of american workers. [ laughter ] >> you put it very well. i must say, john. >> if the federal government, if people in the federal government knew how to train this next generation of workers, they'd be make billions in the private sector. instead, they work for entities that act like the post office, scrap every cent of this program...