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Something to talk about with our panel. first though, a less confrontational but just as colorful moment from that interview. >> you know, every developer in manhattan, you know everything about building buildings, you could build a wall. i have no doubt about it. >> nobody knows how easy that would be. i moon it would be -- it would be tall. it would be powerful. we would make it very good looking. it would be as good a wall is going to be. people will not be climbing over that wall, believe me. >> joining us now, cnn political commentator's, jeffrey lord, a trump supporter, served as politic...

Cost. listen, he went after megyn kelly. a quasi-deity, his numbers went up. say tactic with hugh hewitt. i wouldn't be surprised if his numbers continue going up. >> rick, what is a gotcha question, asking terrorist leaders, world situation is a gotcha question, where's the limit? >> well, look, i do think there is a point. and hugh acknowledged it earlier. by every, every account, he is one of the most fair and intelligent commentators and talk show host out there. but, you know look he didn't ask donald trump who is the deputy foreign minister of pakistan? he didn't ask donald trump, you kn...