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I think her for sure. i think they'll be some lingering discussion of jon huntsman. he didn't really play here. he's not playing here. and he's got to make a big showing in new hampshire. but i think people will come out of here will look ahead to new hampshire and see that his numbers aren't anywhere in new hampshire. so he'll be commented upon mostly i'm guessing now from the vantage point of what was the point. and rickç perry i think also stands to lose big-time. if he doesn't finish strong here, i think he's pretty much out of the ball game. i don't see how he can recover because he's m...

Also from iowa, national fairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good evening, lawrence. >> howard, you 2003ed on this issue of the santorum surge. you tweeted in des moines romney circle says it's okay if santorum surges a little. they'd rather have him as the cultural right foe than newt ori >> yes. well, i suppose maybe they should be careful what they wish for. >> yeah. >> but their reasoning was was this. their reasoning was this, that south carolina's the place where mitt romney's almost certainly going to ...