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If you wanted to fish for that, you just got it. that's fine. it's a good cheap shot, but i'll give it to you. >> you laid it out there like a softball. >> the last time we've seen the republican party as divided as the now was during the goldwater year. what happened was eventually reagan came along not as a right-winger. we like to portray him as a right-winger. we weren't successful. he wasn't barry goldwater, and that's the difference. barry goldwater and -- >> ronald reagan, smaller government guy, lower taxes, lower regs, looking for only the fight, winning wars through power, not throug...

>> that's not washington. >> that's the big difference between washington and being a governor in either -- being a governor, you actually, until recently, couldn't move way out of the needle. now you got guys in north carolina who don't have any spine because they're afraid of the tea party and the guy in wisconsin is a real right winger, so i guess that's -- that's usually not the case. most governors realize the solutions are in the middle, no not on the fringes. i do think that, you know, when you have -- when you're in the chair, you have to make a decision, stand up and make the decision...

They say. you know, he can't just keep giving speeches. he has to act like he's fighting and doing things. >> what does he do? when they shut down the government? what does he do when they default? what's he going to do with words on national television when when he people like ted cruz who don't give a damn about his success or maybe the country for all i know or rand paul a flaming right winger or mike lee who is more concerned than anybody on the planet, they just want to bring government to a halt and humiliate this guy in history and they want to put a big asterisk to his name, he wasn't ...

Europe if you're them thinking completely logically. why not take another run at that strategy? why go away from it? >> it's two-fold. there's that legislatively, which seems to have been a boon for republicans. but there's also the electoral strategy. which is to say, michele bachmann may be gone, but i will read from the great e.j. die yuan, the minnesota right-winger deserves to be memorialized, she perfected a tactic well-suited to the current environment, toss out baseless charges and eventually some of them will end up in the mainstream media get a handful if of your accusations and stra...

They are doing this. one of my best friends became a magnificent right winger when he was at berkeley and the berkeley council spent one entire data baiting to -- debating whether to change the word manhole covers. >> there are terms like manhole and man lock won't be change. isn't this because they are names of great bars you attend. >> that was good. i got that in there at the end. can we fix the economy? ann coulter discusses in her latest book. and should the smacking -- smoking age be raised to 21?