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>> -- rip asunder that and wind up paying 15%. while a secretary pays 28%. >> you guys are just greedy. you're just greedy. you want to spend, you want to spend, you want to spend. you don't want to deal with the debt and this deficit. >> this plan does deal -- >> two chairmen fighting. let's look at the "hardball" scoreboard. let's look at the latest poll numbers from bloomberg. president obama is at 55% approval rating, the highest he's been since the first couple weeks of his administration way back in '09. 55%, michael. let this sink in. 55% job approval. >> okay. >> i want it to sink in. ...

The grill so the fat doesn't burn away. am i right, michael? >> that works, too, governor. >> well, i want to ask michael one question. >> go ahead, take over. >> michael, and i agree with you, democrats did vote and support the sequester, although i don't think many democrats, if any, would be for the sequester going into effect. but what is wrong with significant cuts in entitlements, more cuts than raised revenue when the only revenue we're raising is on millionaires to make sure that they pay the same tax rate or slightly higher than ordinary working people pay? what's wrong with that? >> ...

>> i think it means the meat off the grill so the fat doesn't burn away, am i right, michael. >> that works, too, governor. >> well, i want to ask michael one question. >> go ahead, take over. >> michael, and i agree with you, democrats did vote and support the sequester although i don't think many democrats, if any, would be for the sequester going into effect. but what is wrong with significant cuts in entitlements, more cuts than raised revenue when the only revenue we're raise something on millionaires to make sure that they pay the same tax rate or slightly higher than ordinary working pe...