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Anything. >> and the president's new budget contained a hefty provision to a program. and david asbin is co-host of after the bell on the fox business network. well, the official language in the legislation, it is a risk corridor? but by any other name? >> there you go. there you go. two famous promises. no more bail outs and it will not add a dime to the deficit. 5.5 billion, and money to go to the insurance companies to make up for the fact that not enough young healthy people are applying for obama carry. only 25 percent of those are young and healthy. and marco rubio read the obama care bi...

End. that is not right. it isn't fair that people and companies that can can afford to hire lobbyists come up here and figure out a way to get the taxpayers to bail them out for a program that doesn't work, was never going to work and is now worse than ever. >> of course, you can always tell with some of these things like the risk corridor, it isn't written if by some wild chance a lot of healthy chance a lot of young people signed up anymore than expected they made a the love extra money the taxpayers wouldn't be getting any of that extra money on the back end. isn't that true? >> only is tha...

Explain what a risk corridor is for the viewers. >> risk corridor a program where insurers are told if you participate in this insurance marketplace and you miscalculate the amount of money that it's going to cost to you insure these people we will come in and make up for the difference. that's a valid concept in a healthy insurance marketplace. the problem with obamacare it is it is not a regular insurance marketplace. in fact, it's not an insurance marketplace at all. it's high risk people. they are guaranteed to lose money because not enough young healthy people are signing up. the taxpayer...

End. that is not right. it isn't fair that people and companies that can can afford to hire lobbyists come up here and figure out a way to get the taxpayers to bail them out for a program that doesn't work, was never going to work and is now worse than ever. >> of course, you can always tell with some of these things like the risk corridor, it isn't written if by some wild chance a lot of healthy chance a lot of young people signed up anymore than expected they made a the love extra money the taxpayers wouldn't be getting any of that extra money on the back end. isn't that true? >> only is tha...

Save billions of dollars. new budget outlook estimates the provision, the so-called bailout will cause a net gain of $8 billion to the government. therefore, repealing the risk corridors as republicans now want to do would cost taxpayers $8 billion. otherwise known as the cost of the food stamp cuts. just passed into law. joining me now to discuss the obamacare bailout and fictions about obamacare, msnbc contributor josh barro and politics at "business insider." we have to be clear, there is no bailout here. this program exists for a really good reason, too, which is obamacare is creating a wh...