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They are increasing and for sure they are going to do their production and supply of oil from the international market. it's going to be a downwards projection and prices for oil. in the long run it will not have any negative effect. the effect is only going to be positive. >> oleg -- >> not only non economic issues, they're going to be positive effects. >> oleg -- i'm afraid we are losing your audio, i can't understand you. we're going to take a moment and see if we can corrected that for you. david, even if we put this ban on russian oil, what if it backfires? putin has shown time and again ...

Isn't there a risk it backfires and he doubles down on his actions, militarily? >> there is that risk. you look at the global energy market right now, there is so little slack in it. it's not out of the question -- sell the oil quickly to the chinese, or india. so i am very sympathetic to what's the presidents advisor is saying. there are many people in congress who are sympathetic to the argument as well. this is very tricky territory, and just a few minutes ago, the admiral was talking about the world play of arming troops and ukraine. this is a traditionally military war in one sense, and a...