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Like. that is clearly the strategy laid out by administration and the fact the taliban is not denying it makes me feel a little bit better at this stage. >> that is interesting. general clark, the state department as we've reported said today they are up to -- there are up to 1500 u.s. citizens left in the country. that does not include u.s. legal residents, green card holders and they don't have a number specifically how many special visa applicants are still out there. if you don't know how many people have to get out in six days, how do you get out in six days? >> well, that's been the prob...

Special danger. so there is a lot of uncertainty here and the state department obviously, is doing what it can but i think we have to face the fact, kate, that we're not going to be assured that we're going to get everybody out. i mean, that's just the reality of it. there will be people who didn't make it i suspect. >> and juliette, exactly to general clark's point, there is a senior administration official put it to cnn this way that many afghan allies the u.s. aimed to help will be left behind. it's a reality they say quote that would be true whenever we evacuated and whenever the taliban t...

Is now in charge of afghanistan. so i'm of the school now that keeping the deadline makes a lot of sense because it does not force the taliban's hand at this stage, it lets them -- why would we get into a fight with them publicly at this stage? we have a common interest, which is to minimize the isis-k threat, get people out, that's clearly happening, not as many as we wish and then and do that as safely as possible over the next week and then deal with what evacuations look like, this contingency planning after the 31st. those clambering for the president to push a deadline and get the taliba...