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The dollars to the state for the state to be inventive. we can look at the things states have done over the last ten years, some of which were squashed by obamacare. in maine their invisible high risk pool, which obamacare put out of business, lowered premiums by 20%, is now seen as the policy to go forward. in indiana where they prefunded health savings accounts to lower income hoosiers could be empowered to purchase their own services, they found that costs went down and outcomes improved. we give it to the states. i'll finish how i started. i'm a doctor for 25 years, caring for those who di...

Socialized medicine is, yes, everybody gets coverage, but everybody gets a pretty poor level of coverage and you don't get the kind of innovation that you need. the u.s. is the, by far and away the leader in medical technology from biotech down because of our free system. david: and bruce, it's weird how democrats have gone socialist and even a liberal commentator said that democrats have become socialists, what do you think? >> i don't know if it's so much for socialist that they're running for president and one of the goals is that they did not achieve with the affordable care act that they ...

Do you agree they shouldn't vote on anything -- >> i don't think functionally that should do that because we have a lot of deadlines coming up. i do share nick's sentiment. we can't take nothing for an answer and we cannot allow the status quo in healthcare. healthcare costs are sky rocking k people are losing choices. the bill that we pass in the house is to lower premiums and give people more closures. t way i think that matters the most is we believe risk pools are effective. we had a high risk pool in wisconsin. when i talk about risk pools, we believe as government, federal government, st...

Shouldn't vote on anything until they figure out the repeal and replace for obamacare. do you agree with that? obviously there is the whole debt ceiling issue coming up, cut bullet do c but do you believe -- >> there are deadlines coming up on us. you mentioned s chip. i do share mick's sentiment, which is we can't take nothing for an answer and cannot allow the status quo on health care. health care costs are skyrocketing. people are losing choices. the bill we passed in the house, the whole promise of the bill is to lower premiums and give people more choices. look, the way i think that matt...

Don't go broke paying for that health care. and by having direct care in subsidies like we had in our risk pool in wisconsin, four people with catastrophic illnesses, you dramatically lower the price of insurance for ef everybody else. 10% of the people in the wisconsin risk pool, 10% of the people were in the risk pool in wisconsin, the other 90% of wisconsinites had chaeaper, muc more affordable health care. that's what we're proposing to do. funds for catastrophic illnesses so those people get support. 1% drive 23% of the cost. if we basically say we'll directly support those, i don't know,...