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Them being able to participate in the program again. so based on initial analysis of the data and the period of the 2017 open enrollment period, they're seeing more signs of unbalanced risk pools. a risk pool essentially means older people and sicker people. so people who need more cover and more expensive to cover as well. it was thought that more young people that they would be signing up to the affordable care act from the first of november 2016 through january of 2017 during this open enrollment stage in order to balance out the costs. but lo and behold, it hasn't happened since trump as e...

For example, for automobiles still have access to that market. >> right, but and it's hard to make that comparison, the people that can't gate high risk autoinsurance is because they're bad drivers or they' had, you know -- it is -- wther you're talking about health and preexisting conditions, preexisting can come you're born with an ailment. that's what i mean. is like why penalize -- why create a similar system in insurance, you're paying your own penalty for bag bad driver? >> chuck, again, i agree with you, what i'm saying is the assigned risk pool can spread that cost, that risk, across v...

One big pot, you would have to say that there are very legitimate questions to be raised about price's nomination. and approval. but because this will be approved on a party line, i think that it's very likely that he'll get approved. one other thing, and dana, you know an awful lot about this, having covered health care so much, is that he's also going to be questioned about this executive action and the mandate, and what that -- how he interprets that executive action, and what that will mean for people in terms of whether they've got to conform to the mandate or don't have to conform to it,...

Mandate -- as he says he wants to -- it's not just people who don't have access. people may opt not to get it. then also if there's no pre-existing condition, people could wait until they get sick and then decide to get it. all of a sudden you could have a system that doesn't sustain itself. >> republicans have a -- they have had a plan. i brought it up earlier. tom price's plan, he has ways to address that with grants to states to make up for the subsidy in high risk pools, looking at ways to keep people -- because he comes from a medical background. republicans aren't looking to kick people ...

How democrats would do it are totally different. we want competition. we want transparency in the marketplace. we want to bend the cost curve. we want people to get coverage, not because the government tells you to, but because it's affordable and anybody who wants to get it should be able to get it. >> risk pools in individual states, or ideas like insurance across state lines. what we call obamacare today was originally a republican proposal. but that is awfully important. >> you cannot forget the historical context of that heritage plan. >> and done by the heritage foundation, thank you for...