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Seems like it could be a problem given the sort of volatility of these risk pools as we currently see them. from your perspective, what do you think of rubio's plan. >> i think every one of these republican proposals are a trojan horse trying to take down the affordable care act. none of these people are supporters, including marco rubio. this is just a move right now to try to dissuade the insurance industry which has said we have a failing system. we have an opportunity to make a huge improvement for people of this country. we need to have a security blanket as we go forward with this implem...

But the next thing is going to be how to actually operate this thing for rising costs. when they recalculate these things for risk pools, a year from now right at mid-term elections when people are looking for a huge government subsidy to pump this up -- >> you are so right, and the big political question will be whether when obama goes to the republican house and says i need more financing here, because young people are not joining this system. they're going to say not. >> here's the other political question. look at the president standing at the poll in personal attributes. is he honest and ...

How to override the leading goal of most americans. >> the website will get fixed but the next thing is going to be how to actually operate this thing with rising costs. when they recalculate these things for risk pools, a year from now right at mid-term elections when people are looking for a huge government subsidy to pump this up -- >> you are so right, and the big political question will be whether when obama goes to the republican house and says i need more financing here, because young people are not joining this system. they're going to say not. >> here's the other political question. l...

Rules are in the particular state. our members are going to work very, very hard to try to support their customers to provide them options at the same time making sure that the new market will be affordable and that's the key point. that's why i think there are a range of interests that are very important. insurance commissioners. the insurance industry. health plans, the administration, consumers working together to try to make sure that they can buy affordable coverage and that is the issue. how do we balance those risk pools? who stays out? who goes in? there's a strong interest in talking ...

Katty tell us what the official view is from people -- >> this is apocalyptic. this is a challenge for the president politically. >> so, katty, "usa today" says this about the president's quote ugly fix. allowing cancelled plans to be renewed destabilizes risk pools, shifts wlams to health care insurers and that's exactly what they are concerned about right now, isn't it? >> the devil is in the detail. exactly how the president's latest plan would work is unclear at least according to insurers. the national association of insurance carriers say it's not feasible. they say it could destabilize ...