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Coverage. the fear mongers are trying to suggest their premiums are going up because they currently have cancer, they have heart disease or something like that. as long as they've had coverage, there is nothing that impacts them. what we're talking about, wolf, here is the potential, the hypothetical that a state would ask for a waiver for an individual today on the individual exchange who does not currently have insurance, whose subsequently is diagnosed with cancer in which case i will agree the insurance companies could charge more but only up to 12 months and in the interim the long amendm...

Too early to talk about the win right now we are actually having good conversations among differing opinions within our conference. that is a huge win in that we are having substantial policy debates. >> bill: chief white house correspondent john, good morning. narrow down the main topics in this meeting, what were they? >> let me set the stage, vice president along with the secretary of hhs, met with the house freedom caucus, republican study committee, tuesday group, big topic of conversation absolute necessity to lower premiums. conservatives believe the first act that department get to a v...

Want to get it done but i don't know if they can. >> what can you tell us, if anything, about how this new bill might look different from the one that we saw a few weeks ago that did not make it to the floor for a vote because there were not the votes. >> conservatives, house conservatives mainly in the house freedom caucus, the pretty -- the more conservative wing of the party wanted to change what we call title one regulations, some of the baseline coverage elements of obamacare, some of the more popular things, staying on your plan until you're a young adult, no -- can't kick someone off ba...

Conditions. direct support from the people with pre-existing conditions so that everybody else has cheaper health insurance. what you do when you do this is, the individual market, the people who don't have pre-existing conditions have much more stable prices. let me give you an example. take a small business that has 40 employees. let's say that four people in that business get cancer. well, under that business, that business has to pay for all those cancer patients. all those cancer treatments. the other 36 people in that 40-person pool have -- get hit with much, much higher premiums to pay ...

Urgency, the insurance exchanges are falling apart. three-quarters of the co-ops that are giving out insurance in states have failed, gone bankrupt. gregg: right. >> people are seeing their premiums skyrocket if they don't get subsidies and people in the middle class aren't eligible for the subsidies. they have to act quickly. i think that the two things that they can do is start moving the medicaid patients, that's the federal program for the poor, moving that in a bloc grant to the states. the states have efficiencies, tailor it to each state's exchange. why, gregg, should i have to pay for ...