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Condition protects, as long as there was at least one plan in every state that did offer those obamacare protections. is that a safe option? >> no, it is not. what you're going to do is get very, very high risk pools which makes those premiums not affordable for the american public. that's why we need to do this together. and that's the -- that's the concept of the affordable care act, it is law, that allows all of us to join together so that someone who has a serious illness, women who will need obstetrics coverage, mental health and addiction, those services are available at affordable rates...

Profitability, and don't have to be in this localities around the country where either there are higher risk pools or lower prov profits, one of the two, and health care stocks have been one of the best performers stins bill first came out, or before it came out on thursday morning. biotech, health care. >> that might be a tip. >> that's a tip. the stock tells you who benefits the most. >> 30 seconds here. what will happen oto the states? not many got into the aca exchanges and now it's up to you. >> we're back to the incubator of romney or massachusetts, where each state gets to experiment wi...

Entitlement and exploding in cost and it is frankly very inefficient, we need to give the states more room to innovate. if we are going to help sick people. so this is a really big catastrophic debate, but the actual bill, i think they are tinkering around the edges on a lot of it. >> and john, penal are saying -- people r that are critical of this, is what is being removed is the financial death spiral and those unwell will stay in and those who are well will not and therefore you have a revenue problem. >> there is a lot of money for risk pools. risk pools are around for a long time. there i...

Obamacare force people to buy insurance that they don't necessarily want or need. it raises the cost of that in a way that makes it unaffordable. while the goal of obamacare was supposed to be universal coverage, we know that about 28 million people are still uninsured in the country. what that's done as it's narrowed the risk pools so only older people with more illnesses have signed up, while younger, healthier ones have not and that's raised premiums for everybody. >> julie: i want to talk to all those rural americans who voted for president trump and now are trying to be scared by those wh...

Years, has completely failed. >> melissa: senator, granting everything you just said, the problem is that all of those things save money and they cut funding, but you still have -- you are going to create these risk pools with money, you're going to continue to have the subsidies, the medicaid cuts are just slowing the growth -- spending, it is not actual cuts, so there is a lot of spending, and you are not forcing people to pan, so how are you going to pay for the health care you're disturbing? >> we are certainly going much more flexibility to the states to make some of those decisions. i wa...