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It as a handful. it is hard to square how a handful could be a large amount that apparently disappears over night that the president is talking about. we know these were largely down sk scale. obviously we know where all of this started was with the president's tweets. i don't know if it really is the media to blame in this case. >> let's talk about the new asylum rule. can we try to make sense for us of the new policy? >> if this goes into effect, this would trump all the other policies. they're sent back to mexico to wait for a u.s. judge to hear their case. this case they would not get that...

We know that the president is now being investigated under this beefed up post-enron witness tampering law and he continues to be a subject of obstruction of justice questions. where do you think the interaction with all these witnesses ranks on a risk scale for the president? >> well, it makes it more risky for the witnesses. it makes it more risky for the president. but let me just draw a distinction between a cooperating witness and a truthful witness. i think frank's point is a very important one that i want to underscore. i also agree that hope hicks is a very unlikely, you know, wired up...

This point? we know the president is being brought in under this witness tampering law and he continues to be a subject of obstruction of justice questions. where do you think the interaction ranks or a risk scale for the president? >> it makes it more risky for the witnesses. it makes it more ricky for the president. let me draw the distinction. i also agree that hope hicks is a very unlikely wire it up or going in as a government agent. it doesn't mean she's not a truthful witness. the more the president talks to her, the more the government and the mueller team will want to know what em. al...

And you have to go out on the risk scale to make money. so raising interest rates might be good for certain sectors >> half to 2/3rds fall into the category of america's baby broomers. we saw that coming a decade ago >> you can create a bigger social net to help the people or create jobs to help the people get the jobs and one of the problem with the president's policy is that in creating that social help and forcing people out of the workforce and people that need jobs can't find it. and people are underemployed. you can find a good job. part-time work, less money, there is a real problem. >>...