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>> are criminal charges at all possible? >> well, you know, it's interesting. i got a note on my facebook page and one of tfof the gentleman t called in said it about right. he said those responsible should have to hand-dig every grave and figure out who's in there and make it right. i can tell you that i think that criminal charges are absolutely in order in this particular case. there's another issue here though, too. that is that congress has appropriated money, somewhere between $5.5 million and $10 million that's just been completely wasted because they don't have electronic tracking syst...

On this memo that we got our hands on. when they -- it was referred to as gaming strategies, a tactic used to improve customer service scores. are there bonuses involved in certain things that the va does, members of the va that are working in these clinics? i mean, is there a financial incentive to basically hose vets? >> i think it's a bureaucratic incentive though there are bonuses, we measure things for example waiting times, if you have a good waiting time you come up high in scores. that may get you a promotion. but if the waiting times are gamed, that is they don't count the times that ...

Would be raised here in this country. >> $130 billion. >> those businesses would come back to america and pay taxes here, is that what -- >> yeah, sure. you don't think citi's going to go offshore? >> i think they're offshore for other reasons. you're really talking about revenue that won't exist. >> why are we going to allow them a tax break to invest in jobs overseas. that makes no sense whatsoever. it drives the american people crazy. $200 billion we ought to be saving from pharmaceutical companies that are not allowed to give us a discount because of the way we wrote the part d benefit? >>...

Tonight it only adds to it. remember what churchill said about america you can always count on americans to do what is right after they've exhausted he have -- every other option. it is time we put partisanship aside and let the policy decide and have the debate and move this country forward. >> greta: thank you sir. what do democrats think of the plan? joining me congressman andrews. the president talked about modification of medicare and medicaid. did that attract your attention? >> i think we have to do that i think with the growing elderly population, thank god, living longer. you have to ...

Remember what churchill said about america you can always count on americans to do what is right after they've exhausted he have -- every other option. it is time we put partisanship aside and let the policy decide and have the debate and move this country forward. >> greta: thank you sir. what do democrats think of the plan? joining me congressman andrews. the president talked about modification of medicare and medicaid. did that attract your attention? >> i think we have to do that i think with the growing elderly population, thank god, living longer. you have to reform medicare and medicaid...