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>> it is a con game. the people that work for the government are in on it. they get paid off. so somebody comes along and these tend to be low caste hindu women. we have a husband for you or a good job for you in india. and they collect these girls and they wind up in the brothels and can't get out. >> let me ask but a guy i used to work for, jimmy carter. what is your experience with working with these former presidents around the world? >> i love them both. i've been on jimmy carter's board for about 15 years. i have been everywhere with him in africa. by the way, we never go to any place th...

For our current generation. it's hugely important. that's why the commission i chaired focused so much on this idea of global convergence and why economists are as a large group getting behind this as a central element in the global development effort going forward. >> how do you get drug companies to do -- to join this effort and not be focused on the bottom line and on price gouging? >> look, i think drug companies, if they don't earn profits, they're not going to keep doing research and they're not going to be able to perform their mission. some of the great triumphs in public health come o...

On a positive, president carter, he is fighting a fight that is as dire as was first expected. the way he is presented himself seems so strong and a window into what this man is really about. >> this is quintessential jimmy carter. he wants to be a teacher, help us. when it comes to medicine, carter is on top of it all. the carter center has been weighing in on public health issues, trying to eradicate disease and river blindness. it's a passion for carter. i have spent a lot of time at the carter center with president carter. there are always doctors around, leading physicians. it's like phys...

Really do the job. she's carrying 2 x 4s around, so is he. they're putting up buildings -- it's not a p.r. stunt. the carter center is not a p.r. campaign. this campaign in guinea is all real. river blindness, he's focused on these things. he's an engineer. he's an old submariner who's very comfortable working without a lot of people around him and very detailed and absolutely relentless. this guy's 90-some years old and he's worried about killing the last guinea worm. >> and knows where they are. >> yeah, exactly. most guys are worrying how their wikipedia is looking right now, how's my bio? ...

Eventually they got long pants. it took six years, though, george, to get the prison to allow the black prisoners to have that. >> fascinating story, byron. thank you. president carter arrived. he traveled separately. we see him there. dr. frasier, of course, president carter in office as the anti-apartheid movement took hold here in the united states. and diverted so much of his post presidency i to the problems plaguing. >> particularly he's been very good on the tsetse fly that causes river blindness. and also on democratic elections. he's been the carter center that he founded has been for...