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Immigration for a moment. jesse, this caravan is continuing to move forward. super organized. nancy pel ro si and chuck shumer put out a joint statement saying this is just a distraction from the real issue which is preexisting conditions. it >>'s quite alarming. this country's a fair country. we believe in immigration. we want people to come here in an ordinarily and lawful fashion. we don't want people just coming in demanding to be american citizens. being an american is a privilege. it's not a right. you don't come to someone's house, knock on the door and then just barge in and say, hey, ...

Optimism to the point you have seen this stock market breaking records on a daily basis. what about that optimism? small businesses, ceo's of major corporations, they have said they feel more optimistic in the current environment of this president. >> well, i think the democrats are hell bent on making sure they dash that optimism -- leslie's talking about bipartisanship. there's been no bipartisanship ship from nancy pel ro si or chuck shumer on anything. >> sandra: let me get leslie's response to that. >> well, chris, to your point, pelosi and schumer have not been invited to the table for t...