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That's what he stands for. their point person on the budget committee, paul ryan, has put together the so-called road map plan which would privatize social security along with medicare. and what these guys essentially want to do is hand over a good chunk of people's retirement savings and give it to wall street. i might add that john boehner the republican leader, wants to repeal the recently passed wall street reform bill. so they want to repeal the wall street reform bill designed to rein in wall street and then they at the same time want to hand more of our seniors' retirement money and our...

Because at the end of that eight-year period you had a loss of private sector jobs and that's a fact. why in the world we would want to go back to that agenda i think is a mystery to me and it's going to be a mystery to the american people going forward. what they do have some creative ideas including the guy who's their point person on the budget committee which is the road map plan. they would go back to a proposal to partially privatize social security, which is something pete has supported and we can have that debate but the american people need to know that and they also have a plan to tu...

Because at the end of that eight-year period you had a loss of private sector jobs and that's a fact. why in the world we would want to go back to that agenda i think is a mystery to me and it's going to be a mystery to the american people going forward. what they do have some creative ideas including the guy who's their point person on the budget committee which is the road map plan. they would go back to a proposal to partially privatize social security, which is something pete has supported and we can have that debate but the american people need to know that and they also have a plan to tu...

They do have some save ideas including the guy who's their point person on the budget committee, which is the road map plan and what they would do is go back to a proposal to partially privatize associate security which is something pete has supported and we can have that debate, but the american people need to know that and they also have a plan to turn medicare into a voucher program. you give the senior the voucher, by the way, the value of that voucher is going to decrease substantially and throw you over to the insurance industry. those are the ideas that a point person on the budget comm...

Economy. >> we get the problem. >> we have to deal with these spenders. >> so you've got to deal with spending. >> uh-huh. >> and you also have to deal with creating actual capitalism once again. a low lending process, you have a high-yield investment process and a robust educational system so that human beings are not trying to figure out how to pick each other off, make business for one another. >> that's right. >> is that where the conversation is in this commission? >> right now the conversation's on just the fiscal policy. so -- on numbers. we just started this thing a week ago. so you kn...