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Rob was the manager, cathy was a trainer. and they started dating. they had a very normal relationship. he was charismatic, he was fun, everybody looked up to him. we just all wanted to be around him and we never felt like we had enough time. i always thought that later on, when things were settled down, when we had families or life wasn't traveling so fast, i really would relish when i could settle down and spend more time with rob when it wasn't such a rush, rush world. unfortunately, that didn't happen.

But as time passed, what i saw him doing for my sister, supporting her when she needed it most, and he was there for us. he was there for my sister after my mom's death. >> my warmest memory of andrew was early on when he was 14, 15 years old, coming over for christmas morning and opening up presents with us. it was definitely not your normal dynamics of a family that you would see. but they were doing pretty well with that. >> ooze the years went on, he taught me how to drive a stick shift. he was my male role model. >> rob went through phases in his life. rob would recreate himself during hi...

>> she came home when she wanted to, barely graduated from high school. she was literally going out four, five nights a week and somehow she met robert along this process. >> cathy and rob met at the chicago health club. rob was the manager, cathy was a trainer. and they started dating. they had a very normal relationship. he was charismatic, he was fun, everybody looked up to him. we just all wanted to be around him and we never felt like we had enough time. i always thought that later on, when things were settled down, when we had families or life wasn't traveling so fast, i really would rel...

>> translator: in america, she has to take the pharmacy test again, right? but because she wasn't able to pass the pharmacy test, she ran the drycleaners. >> mom worked there six days a week. i was there with her and on sunday we went shopping for the house groceries and after that, we would go visit my father at the cemetery. it was a dark time for her. as my father passed away, she relied on me so much. >> translator: andrew's mom was under a lot of stress at the time. with cathy, that was probably when the -- the troubles were starting up, i think. >> she came home when she wanted to, barel...

You don't talk about stuff like that. you harbor it inside. you drink a beer, you shut up and let the time pass. that's how you deal with it. or that's how i was taught to deal with things. >> translator: the older sister was, we can say, different. she played the roles of both the mother and father. >> there weren't parents in the household. so rob being a little more mature than cathy, he became a little more of a father figure. rob and cathy's relationship changed a bit when they started getting into all these different business ventures. at one point, they were engaged but you had a sense ...