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Close to them, that might be a red line. there's now a huge piece out we've been poring through for the hour. they have threatened to sue. their statement threatens legal action. >> of course. >> they call it defamatory. it seems like to prove that that's the case, they'd have to prove, disprove everything in the story which doesn't seem likely. require opening the books to a degree they've never done. >> yeah, i don't think they're going to sue. >> they never do. >> and allow "the new york times" attorneys to put donald trump into depositions and having subpoena power over the records. >> rig...

Doing the exact opposite with the shell companies and his family was saying we made nothing, we're worth nothing, so they didn't have to pay taxes. so there's a huge yawning gap between the public and private behavior, which is often something voters seize upon that type of hypocrisy. and the "times" story also mentioned there was just a handful of journalists who did delve deeply into the president's finances. part of that is because he made it very difficult, but part of that, if you look at the journalists who did, take tim o o'brien, for instance -- >> they got sued. >> yeah. this is somet...

Stone, once the lie gets set, everything else -- e -- the extent to which any of these practices continued or he's benefitted from these practices, that may be something that mr. mueller is going to find out. and you remember why donald trump drew that red line. he didn't want people going into his finances. i think there's another, which is donald trump is probably the neediest person on the planet. he constantly needs reaffirmation. he constantly needs to be told what a success he is. constantly his lies as well. why? because he didn't do it on his own. he didn't do anything on his own. his ...

Under the radar, because as we will see that hillary clinton is predicting on rachel maddow that the dependent on the outcome of the mid the terms, there is going to be a wholesale firing. >> it is ironic, because the one person who has the authority to remove jeff sessions from the job is the guy who is continually complaining about the job that he is doing. if the president is that upset and that concerned, there is a soluti solution. i am not advocating for it, but i think that it is a disgrace that he is denigrating the attorney general in public and it does not do anything for the men and...

Allegation. today they started laying out the proof. we'll have more on that coming up. and then in addition there is the drama that has been unleashed by california senator kamala harris. >> judge, have you ever discussed special counsel mueller or his investigation with anyone? >> well, it's in the news every day. >> have you discussed it with anyone? >> with other judges i know. >> have you discussed mueller or his investigation with anyone at the law firm founded by mark cass wits, president trump's personal lawyer? be sure about your answer, sir. >> well, i'm not remembering but if you ha...