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Decisions for the dnc but does give her a say in some positions. as all this news was breaking i spoke to campaign manager. who spoke out for the first time since the allegations came to light. here's part of what he said. the memo says your campaign got to weigh in on who the communications director was before the general election. was that fair? >> well, first of all, i understand i just want to underscore breanna said. first of all when the dnc approached both campaigns about a joint fund-raising agreement, they were broke. they weren't going to make payroll and not be able to transform mon...

And that's an example anyone else going through any investigation that they be as truthful as possible. >> you got the impression from k carter page that he was telling the truth? >> this is under oath. >> oh, you mean judy woodruff is not under oath? anderson is not under oath? >> he's only responsible in the national committee. >> if anyone believes you have heard the last and final version of carter page, i think you are not paying full attention. >> right. he's the meaning of the person in this campaign. he keeps changing what a meeting is. >> way to bring up -- >> are you saying he learne...

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