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Chernobyl, and it's staying that way, and if we keep our fingers crossed, it will stay that way and get cooler over the next few days as they manage to pump more sea water into it. it remains to be seen whether they can do that. it seems like they will, but we don't know for sure. >> we'll just have to watch and see what happens. bob, thanks for watching for us there from tokyo. we'll see you again soon. i'm joined by robert alvarez, a senior scholar at the institute for policy studies. robert, with a good morning for you, you heard what bob was saying there and that these nuclear reactors t...

Front, robert. i mean, from a technical standpoint, and also just humanitarian. >> what happened was we had a bunch of reactors that were built in an area that's very earthquake-prone, and the earthquake that struck was five times more powerful of the earthquake that these plants were designed for, and i think a lot of people are going to be asking the question, how could that have happened? how could you design an -- a power plant -- a nuclear power plant in that area an earthquake five times that strong and then followed by a tsunami. what happened since that technically difficult to underst...

That's hardly functioning. although rescue and relief efforts are being stepped up, the challenges they face here are enormous. back to you. >> all right. we mou head back to tokyo and robert bizzell. it's been a couple of days since the quake and tsunami hit. give me a sense of what things are like in tokyo right now, and i have to say we spoke with a gentleman named david abraham earlier who we talked with yesterday as well, and he talked to me about 25 minutes or so after the second quake, the first major aftershock. his office sent him a note about a meeting on monday. i mean, talk about m...