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Mr. engle grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing, we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. >> cnn's sara murray join the us now, sara, what do we know? >> look, my colleagues zach cohen confirming that the committee is speaking with richard engel today. they had spoken to him before. before we got this bombshell from cassidy hutchinson that you're just playing. he knows there are huge allegations that we've heard from cassidy hutchinson and what we've seen over the last m...

Us down at the capitol on the capitol police officers, letting us fend for ourselves and that is unfaortunate. but we view the vice president as more of a fact witness than someone worthy of this step. >> we only have ape few moments left but i want to ask you about tony ornato and the then secret service lead agent robert engle. they were some who seemed to downplay or deny some of these stories. do you think that they lied? >> i think they were less than truthful. and i think that they should come in and talk to the economy again. we said we would recall a number of witnesses. i think i'll l...

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One thing the committee has attempted to do last night and in the days before is to corroborate cassidy hutchinson's testimony on a number of fronts but including this alleged incident in the presidential suv with him wanting to go to the capitol following the rally on the ellipse. you'll remember in the wake of that testimony that the u.s. secret service seemed to imply and others through unnamed sources that there were members including tony ornato, the deputy chief of staff, who would dispute that testimony. u.s. secret service also said at the time that they would be cooperative. zoe lofgr...