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Did the president know he lied. he was an all star cooper. he's worked with robert mul every for a year. nothing has leaked about that investigation. let me read one excerpt that i thought was particularly telling. his earlier cooperation was particularly valuable because he was one of the few people with long term and firsthand insights regarding events and issues under investigation by mueller's office. >> he's so great that they're recommending no jail time. what can we read floo that? we can read that he's probably not implicated in cooperating with russia. did he know about a conspiracy, ...

Conversations before he starts leaking to the press. another problematic statement that raised questions still unevensed about whether the president has recordings of his oval office conversations. comey said that trump's tweet prompted him to ask a friend to share with a reporter the former fbi director's notes about a private conversation he had with the president february 14 about national foreign ministers advisor michael flynn. he said he hoped he could end the investigation into flynn. >> because i thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel, so i asked a close friend ...

Individual, can you lay off this investigation? that's impoodle an ongoing investigation and that's impeding the administration of justice. so mr. gingrich is incorrect in his analysis because he's looking at the wrong incident. we're looking at the incident where distributor comb was directed to stop, to lay off. that meets the standard offage administration of justice involvement or violation and it warrants vex. now, let me be clear. what the special counsel does is different from a cheat. >> absolutely. newt gingrich did vote for impeachment of bill clinton, one of the charges being obstru...

Rosenstein recuse himself and if he feels it's appropriate under the law. the department of justice is a particular eat. it deals with laws by statue and it adheres to two documents, the stauchl tore documents and the constitution. >> and your committee -- oversight over the -- >> absolutely. >> do you think its inevitable he'll have to recuse? >> well, i think that as the proceeding proceeds he will determine that, but i think he might just have to recuse. he's right in the middle of it. he employed the special counsel, he wrote a memo, he's been engaged in conversations. he's been the point ...

Corroborated by system by attorney general sessions under oath as well. >> if it is clear there was obstruction, it's something that's obviously under investigation, the president says absolutely not. others say it's not even possible. want to get to that in a second. want to get your take, though, on evan perez's reporting about zbroeg tension in the justice department right now over whether rod rosenstein should be recusing himself from any part in this investigation. do you think he should? >> first of all, rod rosenstein is a professional. and one of the reasons he yielded to and thought i...