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Broad based health care clinic, something modeled along the lines of the mayo clinic or the cleveland clinic or kaiser permanente will end up being the winning model of care provision. that's not certain obviously at this stage. we'll wait and see what emerges. >> so, robert, you don't think we're in unprecedented territory here? you think that will serve as a model? >> oh, i think there are some good models out there and that the stage is now set for people to get the coverage that they couldn't get under the old system. and we will let the best plan win in the new system. they're required to...

>> jeff morrow, many thanks. to politics and strategy talk. new talks this week for mitt romney to shake up his campaign from the "wall street journal's" editorial board to rupert murdoch's twitter report. big-name republicans want a change. joining me is robert trainen and nbc news political analyst and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. hello, fellows. good to see you. >> good morning. >> robert, i'll begin with you. so the ba"wall street journal" correspondial board ran a strong criticism of the romney campaign. their first issue is the handling of the health care tax versus penalty...

Image here. another issue in the journal editorial issed fact mitt romney is running on his biography, something that doesn't easily translate that middle class voters. we had the waive waverunner optic at the same time he's railing against the economy. do you see that as a gaffe? >> i don't see it as a gaffe. i remind you rich people have ran for president before, john f. kerry in 2004 and rich people have become president, fdr, obviously john f. kennedy and so forth. i'm not exactly sure this is exactly about the image. it's about who can get the job done. at the end of the day, unfortunatel...

This on serious issues. who has the best plans? that's the part of the "wall street journal" editorial i think is the most telling. mitt romney can't just say, i'm going to repeal obamacare. he's going to have to lay out for the american people what his solution is. he can't just say, president obama has failed on the economy. he's got to lay out something better than trickle-down economics as a plan for turning the economy around. so that's the test for the campaign. that's the real stuff that matters to voters. the rest of this is fun for us and, you know, we have great fun with it, but, in ...

>> maybe we are due for good news, lizz. we have bipartisan support for a broad senate bill. s.e. is questioning whether -- >> it's redundant. >> men and women is already a crime. >> the last word on this. >> s.e., wow. i think that when we have a whole new set of circumstances where women are in great peril and being abused on a daily basis and women in congress coming forward and saying we're not protected, i'm not getting what i need, to vote against this is shameful. >> we'll see. the two bills have to be reconciled. thanks to richard, s.e., lizz and david. i'll see you tomorrow at noon ea...